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So who won? CBS news says it depends which poll you are referencing. An argument could be made from either camp about who won, Biden or Ryan. Biden provided significant details about how the President can bring our economy back and save our healthcare system. Ryan refuted much of Biden’s views and shared opposing perspectives, stating, “They’ve had their chance and failed.” The Hill Blog quoted former Vice President Cheney and shared his perspective’s from the debate.
Some of the more memorable video highlights of the debate:
NBC had some interesting social media analysis, referenced in “love him or hate Him, It was all about Biden.” Regardless of your political views, all agree this was a much more passionate and interactive debate than seen from Obama and Romney. Biden demonstrated an edginess and lots of passion, while Ryan stayed calm and cool. Only time will tell, but it should at least be entertaining and exciting as these debates continue to heat up.
Raddatz: Martha concludes debate and thanks both the Vice President and Congressman. Congressman less than enthusiastically embrace, while both families join them on stage, hugging and shaking hands.
Ryan: Ryan gives closing remarks sharing, “it has been his honor to debate with him (Biden).” He shares Obama had his chance, which was all about “spending and borrowing, higher taxes and government taking over healthcare.” He shares “we have 23 million Americans looking for work and 15 million in poverty.” He indicates America deserves better. He and Mitt Romney are asking for America’s support (as he looks directly into the camera). He shares Romney has the skills to get the job done (ideas, experience and solutions). He also shares a job creator is needed and Romney should be that man. Ryan closes with “ the choice is clear and rests with you, we ask for your vote.”
Biden: Biden gives closing remarks by saying, “we inherited really bad circumstances and people are in trouble.” He adds, “Ryan says that 30% of the American people are takers and the American people are looking for a fair chance.”
Biden: Biden shares he rests on his record and it should speak for itself. Biden says he has always leveled the playing field for the American people.
Ryan: Ryan shares when people have problems they need solutions and they are not getting it. He shared there is a plan for millions of jobs and the Democrats current plan isn’t working.
Raddatz: Martha interupts arguing and asks, “if elected what could you give to this country as a human being that no on else could?”
Biden: Biden shares the budgets from congressman Ryan have disemboweled the middle class and it doesn’t do anything but increase taxes for the very wealthy.
Ryan: He is sharing Biden talks about deficits, but he and the President but he put two wars on our country’s credit card.
Ryan: Ryan says the current administration says all we are getting are “speeches and no leadership.”
Ryan: Ryan is jabbing at the President, suggesting he indicated he had a plan but gave a speech instead. Ryan shared Obama said he would cut the deficit and instead we have “four budgets with trillion dollar deficit.”
Ryan: Ryan resounds to her question simply that he would thank the soldiers, let them know we won’t cut the military, ultimately leaving them vulnerable and in harms way. Ryan refers to Obama as “blame and defame.”
Biden: Biden says he would say to a soldier (his son) that the government has one objective, keep soldiers safe and bring them home.
Biden: Biden says things in many campaigns can be offensive.
Raddatz: Martha changes the tempo, asking “if a soldier told me I am dismayed because the ads are so negative, tearing us down, are you as military leaders, embarrassed by the negative tone?”
Biden: Biden is commenting on abortion and quoting Roe vs. Wade, “we were one vote away from changing Roe vs. Wade.”
Ryan: He states he believes life begins at conception, though references making exceptions for rape and incest.
Blogger (Widmar): The debate seems to have taken an interesting turn, from topics centered around economics and war, towards more emotional topics of women’s rights and religion. This could be an interesting turning point in the election, if in fact, women’s rights become a topic of discussion.
Biden: Biden shares his religion defines who he is and has been a practicing Catholic his whole life. He accepts his churches position that life begins at conception. He states he won’t impose abortion or his own religious views on other faiths (Muslim and Jews). Biden doesn’t believe we can tell women who controls their body .
Ryan: Ryan shares he doesn’t see how a person can separate personal and public life, from faith. He shares an example of why he is pro-life, aside from his catholic beliefs. He says, “ten years ago he and his wife saw the heart beat of that little baby…who was the size of a bean and to this day we call her bean.”
Raddatz: She asks if “abortion would be at risk if you are elected?”
Ryan: Again a similar answer, she moves on to another question.
Raddatz: She asks, to Ryan, “what is your interest of the American people?”
Ryan: Ryan shares it is the National interest of the American people.
Raddatz: Another question from Raddatz, asking “What’s your criteria for intervention across the world?
Ryan: Ryan shares more vague answers, indicating they (Obama/Biden) should have worked sooner.
Raddatz: What would you do?
Ryan: Ryan answers her question stating we will lose credibility and Iran keeps their most valuable allies.
Raddatz: Another question from Martha, “What happens if Assad doesn’t fall?”
Ryan: Ryan jabs at Biden and suggesting they can’t go through the UN and Biden responds “we are not.”
Biden: Addressing Ryan, Biden shares his friend Ryan is not answering the questions.
Ryan: Ryan suggests Obama needed a better plan with allies and then they could have been done something sooner.
Ryan: Sharing that he/Romney we are not proposing to send more troops.
Ryan: Ryan is explaining what the surge actually means, referencing snowfall in mountains, blocked passages and keeping the Taliban/terrorists from attacking the US in Pakistan. Ryan We need to pull the soldiers out before the fighting season.
Biden: He is talking about there being lots of discussion around the “surge” and what this actually means.
Raddatz: Another question from Martha, “Why bring the surge troops home?”
Ryan: Ryan shares “we want our troops home” and brings up a point that we don’t want to advertise when we are leaving. He references the Obama foreign policy as “unraveling before our eyes.”
Biden: Biden shares America will be out by 2014, saving $800 billion and that it is no longer America’s responsibility to protect them.
Biden: Biden shares America was in Middle East for one reason and that was to get AL Qaeda, which they did.
Ryan: He agrees with the plan of Obama to be out of Middle East by 2014. Ryan shares he visited with soldier and was “in awe by what they go through daily.”
Raddatz: Martha asks, “Why not leave Afghanistan?”
Ryan: Ryan getting into issues about downsizing military and shares our Navy will be smallest ever with the proposed cuts.
Blogger (Widmar): Both the crowd and Ryan laugh at Biden’s jab on Ryan about his comment around Jack kennedy.
Biden: Biden has a great line; “oh now you’re Jack Kennedy.”
Ryan: Ryan makes a reference to Kennedy.
Ryan: He suggests it does add up and references on several occasions six independent studies support his mathematically calculations.
Biden: “His plan is not mathematically possible,” Biden fires at Ryan.
Biden: Is now referencing loopholes and how this is taking taxes from middle class. Biden says Ryan’s plan doesn’t add up mathematically.
Raddatz: She asks Ryan to be more specific, for which he randomly references past administrations, such as Reagan.
Ryan: He is talking about how there are not enough rich people and small businesses to tax to truly impact the deficit, suggesting it will only improve our country’s situation by 10%. Best line of the debate for Ryan; “look out middle class, the bill is coming to you.”
Biden: Biden says “they’re holding middle class tax cuts hostage,” referring to the very wealthy. Biden is showing sympathy to the middle class pains, stating they are “tired of being knocked down and crushed by recessions.”
Biden: Biden quickly says, “the middle class will pay less and those over a million will pay higher taxes.”
Raddatz: Martha interupts Ryan, to control the tempo, asking “If you’re elected who will pay more taxes?”
Ryan: Ryan denies vouchers are issues and says young Americans should be allowed to make their money work for them by putting in the market, not social security. No reference to the aging populations. The social security comment seems to contradict his initial comments about how important social security is as a program.
Raddatz: Martha asks, “Why not raise the age for Medicare?”
Blogger (Widmar): Debate continues to heat up, lots of “back and forth debating.” You can feel the excitement and passion from both candidates, as well as the crowd.
Ryan: Ryan shares Obama “got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.” He is referring to the Obamacare and Medicare issues, and money being taken from the Medicare program to fund Obama’s healthcare programs.
Biden: Referring to Romney and Ryan, he states, “their ideas are old and bad.”
Biden: He indicates Ryan’s program will cost Americans $6,000 more, not save them as the Republicans are suggesting.
Ryan: Brings up the “voucher issue” and how Biden is trying to scare people.
Ryan: Ryan suggests Medicare and Social Security are going under and they are critical programs for Americans. He uses his own mother as an example and how it helped her mom go back to college in her 50s. He shares we need to honor this promise we have made to all Americans and protect it for future generations.
Ryan: Ryan fires back, stating it was for grants, not really answering the question.
Biden: Biden shares, “he loves his friend (Ryan)” and strategically asks if the stimulus isn’t working, then why did Ryan ask him for two letter to get stimulus money to Wisconsin.
Ryan: Ryan on the attack now talking about Obama’s stimulus plan and borrowing to give to special interest groups, creating 12 million jobs, which Ryan suggests hasn’t happened. Ryan references high unemployment than before Obama took office and no jobs have been created. The overtone is the stimulus didn’t work.
Biden: Biden is being very passionate about Republicans getting out of the democrats way so a permanent tax cut for middle class can be implemented. He is suggesting a lack of bipartisanship.
Ryan: Ryan jabs at Biden indicating his words don’t come out the right way sometimes and the audience erupts in laughter.
Ryan: Says “Mitt Romney is a car guy.” Biden laughs.
Biden: Biden is smiling and laughing extensively, seemingly forced.
Ryan: Ryan aligns himself with Biden, sharing they come from similar towns. He asks Biden if he knows the unemployment rate of Biden’s hometown of Scranton. Biden answers quickly and correctly.
Biden: Biden interupts and shouts about the 47%, “that’s not what’s happening across America.”
Ryan: Shares stanton is 10% now and was 8% 4 years ago, “that’s what happening across America.”
Biden: Biden getting upset and shouts “I’ve had it up to here with this notion of the 47%.” He indicates the economic problems of the country were inherited by the administration. Obama saved GM, cut middle class taxes, while Romney said “let Detroit go bankrupt.” He stated Obama provided foreclosure assistance and suggests Romney did nothing. Again Biden references the “47%” towards Romney and how Romney “disregarded 47% of Americans.”
Raddatz: She fires back quickly, interrupting, and says, “level with the American people. Can you get unemployment to below 6% and how long will it take?”
Biden: Good line by Biden, “We’ve made it clear the President doesn’t’ bluff.” He is really standing his ground now against Ryan and trying to instill confidence around the middle east issues.
Ryan: Ryan challenges, suggesting a nuclear-armed Iran in the Middle East is the biggest threat for terrorism and should not be taking lightly. He is challenging Biden’s stance.
Biden: About the nuclear weapons he states, “Facts matter and they need more than just uranium to have a weapon and we will have the world behind us.”
Biden: Biden addresses nuclear weapons issue saying, “Iran can’t make nuclear weapons; they don’t have uranium to put in it. We won’t let them make weapons and we all need to relax.”
Biden: Biden fires back indicting the tension by other countries towards the US regarding how they see world economies tanking and world’s view against them.
Ryan: regarding the interrupting by Biden, Ryan suggests the debate would be more product if he would stop interrupting.
Debate starting to heat, as Biden and Ryan are really starting to go at it.
Blogger (Chris Widmar): Biden is waving his arms around and just about to fly off the handle.
Ryan: Ryan pushes back on the timeline and suggests it can be done but Spring may be unrealistic.
Raddatz: She asks another question, “if you win (Romney/Ryan) can you fix all of this by Spring?”
Ryan: Ryan dodges the question from Raddatz about the Korans, “We should have apologized for urinating on corpses.”
Biden: Answers that the administration didn’t know about the security needs.
Raddatz: She is speaking (Biden) about challenges in Libya.
Biden: He answers confidently that the “Intelligence community” had told them it was a protest and when the President had learned more they changed their assessment.
Raddatz: Moderator asks another question, “What were you first told about the attack?”
Blogger: The debate tone is changing from a friendly exchange towards a more aggressive interaction.
BIDEN: Biden fires back, getting upset and shouting, “with all due respect that’s a bunch of malarkey.”
Ryan: Ryan digs at Obama by stating, “what we are watching is the unraveling of the Obama foreign policy.”
Ryan: Biden and Ryan agree on Afghanistan.
Ryan: Ryan answers, sharing Obama blamed a YouTube video and it took him a week to act and call it an act of terror.
Biden: Biden shares, Obama’s main goal was to find him and last thing the US needs is another war.
Biden: He answers her question saying, “We will find the men and bring justice, our mistake won’t be repeated.”
Raddatz: She starts the debate by asking a question about Libya, “one month ago Chris Stevens and three others were killed in Libya, was this a failure?”
Blogger (Widmar): The debate is under way. Both men have entered and exchange a friendly handshake. Interestingly, Ryan has a red tie, black suit, white shirt and a large American flag (pin) on his lapel. Biden is wearing a blue tie, black suit, white shirt and a smaller American flag on his lapel (both similar to Obama/Romney in the first debate). This is an interesting visual difference, red tie and big flag (power) versus blue tie and smaller flag (more casual).
Blogger (Widmar): The debate is about to begin, in Danville, Kentucky, between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan. Both parties have arrived at the venue, with wives and children in tow. The debate will be moderated by Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent).
Danville, Kentucky: Centre College
Blogger (Widmar): Crowds for both parties are sharing their support for both Biden or Ryan. Click on the interactive link below to see the exact location of tonight’s debate:
Blogger (Widmar): Excitement building as people arrive for the “showdown” between Biden and Ryan at Centre College in Danville, Kentucky.